I think a woman has a right to choose to have a child or not, but I think the father has the same right.
I think women on welfare who have a second child out of wedlock should be cut off.
I think people who live and work in this country should be legal, if they aren’t they should be deported. I think businesses who hire them have a responsibility to check them out and make every effort to be sure they are legal. It they aren’t and the company hires them, the company should pay, dearly.
I do not think an employee who is offered paid insurance, should be able to turn it down in order to get Medicaid.
I do not think that private schools, including charter schools, should get public funds when they have the right to choose who attends. I think that students should have to be legal citizens to attend public school but public schools must take all students so public funds should be used for public schools.
I think the school day should be longer and that summers should be shorter. American students rate so low it is embarrassing. I think teachers should be paid in direct proportion to the success of their students. I was a teacher and I still think so.
I do not think it is beneficial to our country to have Congressmen and women in office over and over, even if they are elected. They should have term limits…and they should NOT get retirement for life after serving.
I think Social Security should be paid to those who pay it in and it should not be reduced because I draw $700 a month on teacher retirement.
I think capital punishment is barbaric. I think our prisons should be bare minimums without televisions, game systems and computers. Prisoners should work not go to school for a BS, BA, Masters or PHD at our expense. Training for acclimation into society and productive work should be required.
I think that religion should be taken out of government, completely. That means when someone runs for office it is off limits to talk about or use his religion or lack thereof in any capacity while campaigning or while in office.
I think that drugs should be legalized and controlled. Prohibition does not work. As it is now the criminals are making a lot of money and kids have ready access to whatever they want. The so called War on Drugs is not working and the money spent could be put to better use.
I think everyone deserves good medical care but I don’t have any idea how it should work. I am, however, glad that someone is working to get it done.
I think the office of president deserves all the respect we can muster, even when we don’t particularly like the one who resides within. I think his/her personal life is personal and not fair game for the media.
So what am I? Democrat, Republican, Libertarian? No, American.
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I'm sitting back with a bowl of popcorn and gonna watch the rabid Christian rush.
Shucks, I don't have any popcorn.
Interested said: "So what am I? Democrat, Republican, Libertarian? No, American."
I would have to say I agree with 75% of what you wrote Interested.
I'm confused myself at what political affiliation I should consider myself to be.
Noreligion, I'm sure some of my thoughts will not surprise you and some might, I will break the topic down later and either say I dont agree and why, or I will say I agree and since I agree I will simply leave it at that. Interested, after you make the parm cream sauce for dinner, let me know what you think of it.
The only reason why we did not take first place, was because it turned out to be a popularity vote, The winning team brought so many friends that voted for them that it was unfair. Next time unless they have chef judges I will not enter. But they did admit this was the first year they did this blue ribbon challenge and their were tons of complaints about things going wrong. Rick b
Rick, I'll let you know about my experience. I don't cook a lot but I do love to try new things and this receipe sounds wonderful.
If anyone is curious go over to Rick's place and check it out. I'm gonna make it this weekend.
Nicole other than abortion where do you disagree?
Noreligion said
What I want to know is this, You seem to think that Christians are rabid and will disagree with Everything interested said. Well I dont know all of what Nicole agree's with or not she did not lay it out, but she seems to agree with much.
But How do you handle the Atheists that dont agree with Interested? My parents are atheist, and they are all for the death penalty. I dont know their every view point, but I know that one.
My brother is a hard core atheist, he lives with me, I do not know his every view point, but I know this, He is apposed to abortion and all for the death penalty also.
Touch his niece or nephews, my Kids and see how fast he lays down the death sentence as an atheist.
I know many atheists that would not agree with interested on her every point, so since you feel it is only Christians that you feel are like that, then where do you stand on the atheists that believe like us Christians? Then to some point, us Christians do agree with you guys on many things.
Also Noreligion, I know you agree with interested on many points, thats fine, but I also notice you seem to avoid certain questions or topics. Is that because you might end up agreeing with a christian and you cannot have that happen?
Or is it you simply do not like the place you end up with your answer? Even though this question was not directed to you, you could have answered it but did not.
Interested thinks if we Christians teach our kids on side only, and that is Creation, it's a form of Child abuse. But how is it only one or two Christian parents teach a few children, but schools and colleges one teacher teaches hundreds or thousands of students over years and now online, but they themselves only teach one side?
They are so rabid as you say, in pushing the one side, they kick kids out of school or fire teachers that try and push the other side so only the one side is taught. How is that not child abuse or unfair?
Like it or not, you cannot have it both ways, either both sides are guilty of child abuse and are wrong, or neither side is. Now my reply to the topic will be next. Rick b
Rick I have to weigh in here because we have discussed this before. Creationism is a belief and can and should be taught by families and churches. It is often taught in public schools as literature, that's fine. It cannot however, be taught in science class.
I was a librarian in an elementary school. I often did programs for children that included religious beliefs. but it was taught as a story, just like all the stories I taught. I made no judgement nor did I give my opinion, except to say that it was the belief of one particular religion or sect.
So let's not get back on creationism, please. Let's look and discuss the points in my original post.
Interested said
I think a woman has a right to choose to have a child or not, but I think the father has the same right. I agree that a women has a choice, but I believe that choice should be limited to no sex or using Condoms or something, but not abortion. I believe the father should have a say in the matter also.
The reason I am opposed to abortion is, I feel it is murder. Why is it planned parenthood and other abortion doctors do not want to allow time for the women to think things over, or they wont allow ultra sounds and things of that nature? It is because they know many women will change their minds and even see the baby is alive. Sadly it's all about the money for these people.
Now lets take partial birth abortion. Interested, you said the death penalty is barbaric, yet allowing an unborn baby to be born from a women just far enough to have their head pop out of the women, then stick it with scissors or some salty saline solution is not barbaric?
Their are people that teach in some cases that partial birth abortions save women. well explain how, The baby is born from a women and goes through the vaginal canal, well in a partial birth abortion the baby goes the same way, but is first killed, then delivered. So you mean if the baby is born alive the women could die? but if the baby is killed the women will live? Thats crazy. Then their are choices like adoption and such.
Interested said
I think women on welfare who have a second child out of wedlock should be cut off.
I agree, many women only have kids so they can turn welfare into a "job" so to speak.
O my Gosh, Did I hear Noreligion drop her popcorn bowl? I agreed with you guys.
Interested said
I think people who live and work in this country should be legal, if they aren’t they should be deported. I think businesses who hire them have a responsibility to check them out and make every effort to be sure they are legal. It they aren’t and the company hires them, the company should pay, dearly.
I so agree, I'm tired of people coming here illegally and having more rights than me and even using my tax paying money to survive while I am denied my money. Wow, Noreligion did you just drop your popcorn again, I think you will find I agree more than I did-agree so maybe you better back away from the popcorn till your done reading the rest.
Interested said
I think a woman has a right to choose to have a child or not, but I think the father has the same right. I agree that a women has a choice, but I believe that choice should be limited to no sex or using Condoms or something, but not abortion. I believe the father should have a say in the matter also.
The reason I am opposed to abortion is, I feel it is murder. Why is it planned parenthood and other abortion doctors do not want to allow time for the women to think things over, or they wont allow ultra sounds and things of that nature? It is because they know many women will change their minds and even see the baby is alive. Sadly it's all about the money for these people.
Now lets take partial birth abortion. Interested, you said the death penalty is barbaric, yet allowing an unborn baby to be born from a women just far enough to have their head pop out of the women, then stick it with scissors or some salty saline solution is not barbaric?
Their are people that teach in some cases that partial birth abortions save women. well explain how, The baby is born from a women and goes through the vaginal canal, well in a partial birth abortion the baby goes the same way, but is first killed, then delivered. So you mean if the baby is born alive the women could die? but if the baby is killed the women will live? Thats crazy. Then their are choices like adoption and such.
Cont below, Rick b
Interested said
I think women on welfare who have a second child out of wedlock should be cut off.
I agree, many women only have kids so they can turn welfare into a "job" so to speak.
O my Gosh, Did I hear Noreligion drop her popcorn bowl? I agreed with you guys.
Interested said
I think people who live and work in this country should be legal, if they aren’t they should be deported. I think businesses who hire them have a responsibility to check them out and make every effort to be sure they are legal. It they aren’t and the company hires them, the company should pay, dearly.
I so agree, I'm tired of people coming here illegally and having more rights than me and even using my tax paying money to survive while I am denied my money. Wow, Noreligion did you just drop your popcorn again, I think you will find I agree more than I did-agree so maybe you better back away from the popcorn till your done reading the rest.
interested said
I do not think an employee who is offered paid insurance, should be able to turn it down in order to get Medicaid. Yep, I agree.
Interested said
I do not think that private schools, including charter schools, should get public funds when they have the right to choose who attends. I think that students should have to be legal citizens to attend public school but public schools must take all students so public funds should be used for public schools. I agree
I think the school day should be longer and that summers should be shorter.
This one I dont really care one way or the other, I really dont believe Kids will learn more if the years are longer, I think part of it is, society is dumming people down, and the class sizes are way to big.
Cont below, Rick b
Interested said
American students rate so low it is embarrassing. I think teachers should be paid in direct proportion to the success of their students. I was a teacher and I still think so.
I agree to a point, I feel as I said, class sizes are way to big, so it is hard to give the students that really need help, the help. Plus I am in college and it is costing 42 thousand, and I see many kids who simply do not care and are not trying. It's sad that they are paying that much money, or it the parents, and they are getting a 3.0 or lower. I also say I think part of the problem is class size because, my 3 kids are home schooled and they needed to be tested my a outside government source every year to make sure they really are learning. Every year they get tested they blow away the people with how smart they are, my kids are ranking at college grade levels in reading, and always 2 grades above the grade they are in. I believe in part it is because it is 1 teacher, my wife to 3 students, not 1 teacher to 30 or more students. Rick b
interested said
I do not think an employee who is offered paid insurance, should be able to turn it down in order to get Medicaid. Yep, I agree.
Interested said
I do not think that private schools, including charter schools, should get public funds when they have the right to choose who attends. I think that students should have to be legal citizens to attend public school but public schools must take all students so public funds should be used for public schools. I agree
I think the school day should be longer and that summers should be shorter.
This one I dont really care one way or the other, I really dont believe Kids will learn more if the years are longer, I think part of it is, society is dumming people down, and the class sizes are way to big.
Interested said
American students rate so low it is embarrassing. I think teachers should be paid in direct proportion to the success of their students. I was a teacher and I still think so.
I agree to a point, I feel as I said, class sizes are way to big, so it is hard to give the students that really need help, the help. Plus I am in college and it is costing 42 thousand, and I see many kids who simply do not care and are not trying. It's sad that they are paying that much money, or it the parents, and they are getting a 3.0 or lower. I also say I think part of the problem is class size because, my 3 kids are home schooled and they needed to be tested my a outside government source every year to make sure they really are learning. Every year they get tested they blow away the people with how smart they are, my kids are ranking at college grade levels in reading, and always 2 grades above the grade they are in. I believe in part it is because it is 1 teacher, my wife to 3 students, not 1 teacher to 30 or more students. More later, Rick b
Noreligion, I am curious, do you agree with EVERYTHING interested said, or not, if not then that means you might agree with me, yet you said I am rabid, so where do you stand?
Interested said
I do not think it is beneficial to our country to have Congressmen and women in office over and over, even if they are elected. They should have term limits…and they should NOT get retirement for life after serving.
I agree, years ago this was not the case, not at least when our country started. I would also add they do not need such high per diem amounts, They tend to get over 80 a day for food and you know in many cases they keep the money.
Interested said
I think Social Security should be paid to those who pay it in and it should not be reduced because I draw $700 a month on teacher retirement.
I agree, it's our money paid in on taxes and sadly many never see the full amount anyway because of death.
Interested said
I think capital punishment is barbaric.
I do not agree, Look at the terrorists like Richard Reid the shoe bomber or the so called Christmas bomber, they clearly wanted to die, we should have shot them on the spot on the tarmac for the world to see. Give them death like they wanted, not give them rights and send them to jail and pay for them to have room and board and all the gay sex they can handle. People try and say the death penalty is far more expensive than life in prison. What a bullet cost, .50 cents, a piece of rope can be used over and over, tie a rock around them and toss them in a pond.
What about serial killers that rape and torture women and children, they are barbaric, let them die.
Interested said
I think our prisons should be bare minimums without televisions, game systems and computers. Prisoners should work not go to school for a BS, BA, Masters or PHD at our expense. Training for acclimation into society and productive work should be required.
I agree, but also I would like to see them get less than the bare minim, I think dirt floors and bread and water would be the way to go.
Interested said
I think that religion should be taken out of government, completely. That means when someone runs for office it is off limits to talk about or use his religion or lack thereof in any capacity while campaigning or while in office.
I agree, I have stated before I hate religion, but sadly we both know this will never happen, People will say goes against their free speech.
interested said
I think that drugs should be legalized and controlled. Prohibition does not work. As it is now the criminals are making a lot of money and kids have ready access to whatever they want. The so called War on Drugs is not working and the money spent could be put to better use.
I did-agree, The war on drugs is not working, that I agree on. But yet I have friends that are police and they have lost friends and loved ones in the fight against drugs, If we now legalize drugs, these police will have died in vain.
Interested said
I think everyone deserves good medical care but I don’t have any idea how it should work. I am, however, glad that someone is working to get it done.
I agree, I am no doctor and would have no clue what to do, but yet I am not in line with Barrack Obama shoving this down our throats, He's doing secret deals at night and going against what at least 80 percent of the U.S is against.
Interested said
I think the office of president deserves all the respect we can muster, even when we don’t particularly like the one who resides within.
I agree.
Interested said
I think his/her personal life is personal and not fair game for the media.
I agree to a point, If they make their life open to us and do stupid stuff then fine. Like Bill Clinton, Getting BJ's in the white house. If he cheats on his wife then thats his business, But when he does it on the clock in the white house while I am paying him, thats different. I am not paying for him to get BJ's while working on the clock.
interested said
So what am I? Democrat, Republican, Libertarian? No, American.
I agree, I have voted for Democrat, Republican, and 3rd party before. Rick b
Rick I said Christians are rabid, let me clear up your confusion. I am referring to fundagelical (combination of fundamentalist and evangelical). I did not say they are rabid because they would agree or disagree with anything Interested said. I am sorry if you don't agree but based on what Nicole said on the other thread as far as calling natural disasters that have killed millions throughout history righteous judgments of god, that is rabid. Now do I ever agree with a Christian? Yes but I am sure you don't consider then real Christians. For that matter (not that it's any of your business) my girlfriend is a Catholic. She accepts evolution, we agree on that. She is pro-choice and does not consider abortion murder, we agree on that. She agrees with stem cell research and does not think harvesting stem cells is murdering a human, we agree on that.
BTW I am not a she not that it matters. Where did you get such an idea? Is it because you think women are beneath you so anyone who disagrees with your imaginary friend must automatically be a woman?
I don't think all atheist agree with me about everything. My thoughts and ideas about things are not based on atheism. Atheism has no dogma. I think all these points are of interest to all of us as humans. The dialog must be open in order to make the best future for us all.
Rick your answers to my statement are thoughtful and well expressed. Thank you. I will have a comment on a couple of point a little later.
Would you like me to go item by item like Rick? Or should I just cite the points where I disagree?
Which ever you choose.
Noreligion, on your blog you called me dear, that was why I thought you were a women,guys don't generaly say that about other guys.
And for the record I do not believe you girl friend is a christian over even knows the bible based upon what you said about what she believes. Rick b
I never called you dear. You must be mistaken. Go back and check if you want. Anyway you dont have to think anything about my girlfriend. To be honest I would prefer you didnt think anything about her.
Noreligion, prior to you telling me you had a girlfriend I never cared, I still dont know, but I dont believe she knows the Bible or Jesus for that matter. Rick b
Hey Noreligion, before I forget, Happy April fools day, also know as the atheist holiday. Cant say you dont have your own holiday. Rick b
Rick, doesn't Matthew 5:22 say "But I say to you that whoever is angry with his brother without a cause[b] shall be in danger of the judgment. And whoever says to his brother, ‘Raca!’ shall be in danger of the council. But whoever says, ‘You fool!’ shall be in danger of hell fire."? Enjoy your time being tortured by hoofed demons for the rest of eternity :)
Interested said: "I think a woman has a right to choose to have a child or not, but I think the father has the same right."
As you pointed out, I do disagree with this statement. It is murdering an innocent life. But the case of rape and incest, I feel it’s ok. For me it all boils down to taking responsibility for your actions. If someone feels that they can have sex, they should accept the consequences, one of which is pregnancy.
Interested said: "I think capital punishment is barbaric."
I find it interesting that you will condone abortion, but not capital punishment. I’m torn on this issue myself. Yes, it is murder like abortion, but I feel in this case the people aren’t innocent like an unborn fetus.
Interested said: "I think that drugs should be legalized and controlled."
I disagree, but I can see why people think it would be beneficial… all that capital and tax money coming into the government machine.
Noreligion said OpenID noreligionblog said...
Rick, doesn't Matthew 5:22 say "But I say to you that whoever is angry with his brother without a cause[b] shall be in danger of the judgment. And whoever says to his brother, ‘Raca!’ shall be in danger of the council. But whoever says, ‘You fool!’ shall be in danger of hell fire."? Enjoy your time being tortured by hoofed demons for the rest of eternity :)
Where did I call you a fool? I said Happy April fools day. It is a holiday for the atheist and it is now to all as a holiday. Rick b
Nicole said As you pointed out, I do disagree with this statement. It is murdering an innocent life. But the case of rape and incest, I feel it’s ok.
I know I never said where I stand on this issue, so let me state what I believe, I believe abortion is murder of unborn kids and even in the case of rape or incest I believe abortion is wrong.
I'm sorry a women was raped by a stranger or a father, but why should a child die because of that? I honestly dont see how a christian can stand before God and say, I felt Abortion was ok because I was raped.
If we believe God is in control then let Him take care of things. Adoption is a choice. Many atheists might wish Billy Graham was never born, but He was a "Product" of Rape, Glad his mother did not feel abortion was a choice.
What if killers simply pleaded before the courts, I will simply aborting people, I did not kill them, I aborted them, Thats stupid.
Also in case Noreligion is wondering, No I do not condone the killing of abortion doctors. Do I feel sorry for them now that they are dead? No I do not. Also I believe Christians should not be torn over Capital punishment. If it were not for Capital punishment Jesus would have never died for our Sins, plus it was God that gave the law of Capital punishment, and He has never repealed it. Rick b
Rick,
Wow, I never knew that fact about Billy Graham. You make some good points on abortion from rape and incest.
Interested, I know you said you were going to address some of my points, so here is something to think about. I stated where I stand on Drugs being legal, I know you think they should be, I do not.
Outside of the money issue, it seems to me it is a lose lose position. If they remain illegal then crime will happen and people will do them, if we make them legal so we can receive taxes then outside of the medical Marijuana issue, what benefits would we get for making Crack, cocaine, meth, PCP, Etc legal?
These drugs do not make people better wives or husbands, or parents or employees. If they were legal and more people started doing them for that reason, how would that be good? Those are not drugs that you could simply do on a day off of work or school, then be clear headed enough to go back to being a fit parent, or member of society.
I know, I did my share of drugs and have and had friends doing them growing up. So what are your thoughts on that? Rick B
Go on Rick call all atheists fools.
Noreligion, The Bible does say, The fool has said in his heart, their is no God. So it is in the Bible. Rick b
Yes, does the bible say April fools day is an atheist holiday? Anyway according to what the bible says in Matthew 5:22, it and whoever repeats it is going to hell so please enjoy your descent into the lake of burning sulfur where you will be tortured for eternity by hoofed demons.
The Bible does not say that April fools day is an atheist holiday, and think what you want, but I did not call you a fool, I just wished you a happy April fools day. Wishing you a happy April fools day and calling you one are not the same. If I said have a merry Christmas, I would not be calling you or imply you were a Christian. Rick b
did you say it was an atheist holiday? Stop lying Rick. You were caught. Admit it and go on but remember you will be on a first name basis with the hoofed demons for eternity. Hope you like well done cooking :)
Interested, I still feel adoption is better than killing children. Also you say the women has a choice, well what about this. Women only have a choice when it comes to abortion, but where is the "choice" or the "IT'S my body" Issue when it comes to suicide?
If a women tries to commit suicide they will be locked up, but I thought it was their body? What about selling their body, sex for money? It's their body, what about doing drugs, It's their body.
I know you will say the law says this stuff is wrong, But still it's their body, but in these cases they have no say in the matter. Rick b
Those are all good questions and I have no answers. I do know, having lived through a time when women had back alley abortions with a coathanger. I never want to see that again. If abortion is ever repealed that is what we will see. As much as I would like every baby to be wanted and every mom to be healthy it just isn't realistic.
Interested, Rick is a lying dog.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_Fools'_Day
http://www.answerblip.com/what-is-the-history-of-april-fools-day
He has lost all credibility in my eyes. If you still find him credible i have no idea how.
Noreligion, you just keep making excuse to not hear the truth or have honest debate, I really dont care. But over all the April fools holiday for atheists is nothing more than a joke among Christians. Rick b
Rick I am not making an excuse for anything. The fact that you think so shows that you are a pathetic creature destined for eternal torture. Since calling atheist's fools and saying today is a holiday for them is a Christian joke, they all are going to hell according to Matthew 5:22 so don't worry, you'll have plenty of company in the lake.
First off, I called no one a fool, second as I showed you or stated and you seem to be aware of it, the Bible does say your a fool, And I can quote the Bible. 3rd, If I did call you a fool that is no guarantee I will go to hell. If you back and read the verse you quote it says, But whoever says, ‘You fool!’ shall be in danger of hell fire.
Notice it says, SHALL BE IN DANGER, It does not say, will go to hell. Their is a thing in the Bible called repentance and Grace, so If I screw up I can repent and receive grace.
Also a I pointed out, it is you who do not know the Bible, Demons will be tormented not doing the torment.
Why is it you can trash talk Christians, call them rabid and trash talk what we believe with out a problem, but then when I say, Happy April fools day you throw a temper tantrum?
Why is it you want to see all religion done away with, but then when I dont live up to what you fell the Bible teaches, all of a sudden you want me to? Again, you cannot have it both ways, and you were accusing me in so many words of splitting hairs on your blog about something you said, but now your doing the same to me by implying I am calling you a fool for simply saying, Happy April fools day.
It seems to me I could say, The jokes on you, I pulled a good April fools joke, HA HA. By the way, I am not the one that started the holiday. Who was it that wrote to a fictitious church about me? Who can attack me like that? But I cannot say something back with out wrath and anger being poured out?
I think you better go find some pansy Christian that will simply roll over and let you trash talk them and maybe beat them with out saying anything back to you, but as for me, I'm one Christian that will exchange tit for tat. If it is wrong for me to do that, then so be it, I will repent later, Again just being honest, and you either want me to be Christ like and live it out, or you want me to put away my "false belief" In your eyes, but then you get what you ask for, you cannot have it both ways. Rick b
Rick your an asshole. You said to me that April fools day was "your holiday" so yes you were saying I was a fool. Your a pathetic piece of trash that backed himself into a corner and exposed his stupidity for everyone on this blog to see. Thanks for making Christianity look stupider than any atheist could. BTW, remember before you go into the lake of sulfur, take a really deep breath :)
Did I touch a nerve? Need a tissue? Why is you you did not answer my question about having it both ways? O-wait, you cannot answer it. Guess what else the bible says, It says rejoice when people speak evil of you and persecute you. See not only Does the Bible say, the fool hath said in his heart their is no God, But your also giving evidence the Bible is the word of God because of you calling me names and attacking me. Well you should be proud of your self, I know I am proud of you. Rick b
Interested, how dare your boss ask you to do something so horrible!? (gasp) ;)
Noreligion, dude, I wonder how you'd react if I wished you Happy Passover? Now, I'm just going out on a limb here...but if Rick would have said April Fools Day was a secular holiday, we wouldn't be having this tussle, would we?
I'm not say this about interested or implying She is like this, But I have been to many atheist blogs and I notice a lack of christian posters.
I'm guessing the reason why is because the atheists really beat up on the Christians and call them names. I can handle the abuse and I really do love it, I thrive on it because I know the Bible teaches that when it happens it means I am getting through.
The Bible says that to some I am the fragrance of life and to others I am the stench of death. I am saddened by the fact that way to many Christians are to spineless and wimpy to handle verbal abuse, But I can handle it.
Anyway my question is, Why is it most, NOT ALL, LET ME BE CLEAR, Not all atheists are jerks, But many really trash talk the Christians and say some pretty hateful things,, But when A christian says, Happy April fools day as a joke, you go off.
Do Christians talk about it as an atheist holiday and use it as an inside joke? You bet some of us do. Does it bother atheists? I say who cares, you talk about us as if were stupid, so why cant we poke fun at you?
If you think the Bible is void of trash talking and sarcasm, then you better go back and read the bible better. Rick b
Nicole if the idiot personalized it with the word your like he did you can safely bet that it would be a problem.I have been called a liar by the moron and now a fool. He can shove his gospel up his ask Interested and maybe she will tell you :)
Nicole if the idiot personalized it with the word your like he did you can safely bet that it would be a problem.I have been called a liar by the moron and now a fool. He can shove his gospel up his ask Interested and maybe she will tell you :)
Noreligion, I called you a liar, but I also stated why I did, I never call anyone a lair without reason. Did I call you a fool? No, but the Bible does, if that bothers you take it up with God. Also I notice you dodge questions, I suspect it is because I am right and you dont like it.
Let me point something out. If I were to say to any atheist, or any person for that matter, If you do not love Jesus you can go to hell, would that bother you? Would you freak out? Well guess what, Paul in the Bible said that about anyone and everyone that does not love Jesus.
What if I felt you were teaching false things about Jesus, well as a matter of fact I do. But Would go go crazy if I called for you to be blind because of what you teach?
Again Paul the apostle did, Like it or not, their is much in the Bible that goes against the "christian norm" Of Today.
What if I told you, dont do...
but you did what ever it was and you got hurt, or lost property, Then I came along and rubbed your nose in it by saying, I told you so, would that bother you? Well Again Paul did that. I will always defend the gospel and if I have to I will play rough and do as the apostle and Jesus did.
Jesus made a whip of cords and beat people, Jesus tossed money changers out of the temple and allowed pigs to die, someone lost money in both deals. Wow that seems very un-Christ Like of Jesus to do those things, dont you think. Rick b
Hey noreligion, If you think its wrong for us Christians or at least me to have a sense of humor and pick on Atheists, then maybe Atheists could set the standard and not pick on us or call us names.
Also Interested was on the mormon coffee blog for a while, you can check it out if you dont believe me, but it is Christians that witness to Mormons and every year on of the Mods plays an April fools joke by posting a fake post talking about mormons being open and honest.
So we poke fun at the Mormons. You got bent out of shape with me, But who was it that wrote to Fake church about me, and that church mocks Christians? Yet If I do the same to you guys, you guys blow a gasket. Maybe you should either treat others the way you want to be treated, or live with the fact that you will be made fun of. Rick b
One thing that I notice about the conversation among christian and atheist; it is always heated.
So let's take a break and get back at it next week. Cheeri-o
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