Thursday, December 17, 2009

Me & Abraham

When I do good, I feel good; when I do bad, I feel bad, and that is my religion.
- Abraham Lincoln


Nicole said...

If I may counter your quote from Abe Lincolin:

It is the duty of nations as well as of men to own their dependence
upon the overruling power of God; to confess their sins and transgressions
in humble sorrow, yet with assured hope that genuine repentance will lead
to mercy and pardon; and to recognize the sublime truth, announced in the
Holy Scriptures and proven by all history, that those nations are blessed
whose God is the Lord.
We know that by His divine law, nations, like individuals, are
subjected to punishments and chastisements in this world. May we not
justly fear that the awful calamity of civil war which now desolates the
land may be a punishment inflicted upon us for our presumptuous sins, to
the needful end of our national reformation as a whole people?
We have been the recipients of the choicest bounties of heaven; we
have been preserved these many years in peace and prosperity; we have
grown in numbers, wealth and power as no other nation has ever grown.
But we have forgotten God. We have forgotten the gracious hand
which preserved us in peace and multiplied and enriched and strengthened
us, and we have vainly imagined, in the deceitfulness of our hearts, that
all these blessings were produced by some superior wisdom and virtue of
our own. Intoxicated with unbroken success, we have become too selfsufficient
to feel the necessity of redeeming and preserving grace, too
proud to pray to the God that made us.
It has seemed to me fit and proper that God should be solemnly,
reverently, and gratefully acknowledged, as with one heart and one voice,
by the whole American people. I do therefore invite my fellow citizens in
every part of the United States, and also those who are at sea and those
who are sojourning in foreign lands, to set apart and observe the last
Thursday of November as a day of Thanksgiving and praise to our
beneficent Father who dwells in the heavens.
– Abraham Lincoln (1863 Thanksgiving Proclamation)

Interested said...

Nicole, what is your point?

rick b said...

Interested, Just wondering, are you saying that what Abe said is basically what you believe? That is your religion? Rick b

Interested said...

I simply posted a quote, which I like very much and that makes a lit of sense.
Quoth the raven: nothingmore.

Rick b said...

Your quote makes no sense. First I could say Hitler killed Millions of people because that was his religion, I could argue child molesters and rapists do what they do because it's their religion.

Just because you do something and enjoy it does not make it a religion or make it true. Rick b

Interested said...

Your comment on this is ridiculous. It is a QUOTE. Abe Lincoln said it; I quoted it because I like it. I did not say it was a religion but I like it. Rick please don't comment on my blog anymore. I prefer intelligent conversation.

rick b said...

I think and use logic, you are the one that cannot handle logic, your the one that dodges questions and your the one that openly lies. Rick b

Rick b said...

interested said I prefer intelligent conversation.

UUUMMMMM!!!! where are all the people that are posting intelligent conversation?

There are maybe 3 others at best, Then as I pointed out to you before, I go to a website that you quoted from, one guy claims to be so smart that he was a big name in the world and won the Pulitzer prize, yet when it came to me all he could do was call me names and attack me.

I sent you back to verify that fact, so If I'm really stupid how come no one is willing to engage me with facts?

Then I am going back to school for a 2 year associates degree and after 3 months and 4 classes i'm pulling a 4.0 GPA, Cannot do that if I'm stupid. I also post the exact grades on my blog for everyone to see. Then since your claiming I do not offer intelligent conversation, Then as I call you to account, I call you again to show me where I am wrong. Rick b

Nicole said...

I apologize for my absence...Busy time of year!

Intestested said: "Nicole, what's your point?" No point to my post. I just like that speech ;). People say a lot of things...

Interested said: "Quoth the raven: nothingmore"
I thought the raven said "Nevermore"? I'm not sayin'...I'm just sayin'...

Interested said: "I prefer intelligent conversation"

Now, Interested, isn't name calling beneath us? I would argue that name calling means Rick is hitting a nerve.

Have a safe an Happy New Year everyone!

Rick B said...

I just wanted to share something I found rather funny. I find it funny that atheists claim they dont hate God and are open to seeing both sides.

I think this is really funny because it's not true, Take the example I gave of Steve Benson, He won the Pulitzer prize but could not talk with me, only attack me. I showed you (Interested) Evidence of that.

Now here is another funny one, An Atheist was posting on the Mormon coffee blog, he or she said they cannot believe God exists.

I told them that in honesty no matter how much evidence they see, if the really do not want to know then they will reject it no matter how good the evidence is.

They said they have seen plenty of so called evidence and non of it is good enough, so I said the 1800 bible prophecy's and the fact that the Jew's exist are not enough?

They said that my evidence was rather vague, I did tell them that this blog is for debating Mormonism not atheists, so I said I will be more that happy to give you greater detail to the evidence, I openly posted my email address for all to see and told this atheists to write me.

Can you guess what happened next? They never wrote me and never came back to the blog, I honestly cannot say I am surprised, I feel atheists lie way more that they care to admit to.

This person claim their is not enough evidence and when I said write me, they leave and never come back. The atheist went by the name Mossface, the topic on the MC blog is, "Evangelical Christians Could Be Wrong "

You can see for yourself and then decide if I am lying or not. Rick b

Interested said...

Oh Rick, Rick, will never understand. Noone is going to converse with you if you continue to call them liars. Because two people disagree it is not a given the one is a liar.

Rick B said...

In the case of this guy, I never called them a liar, I just told you I feel they are lying because they wanted "proof" When I gave some proof they said it was not good enough because it was to vague.

Now you know as well as I do since you were posting for a while on that blog that it is for Mormonism only, the blog is not run by me in any way, I have no say or input to what goes on their.

But once I offered to talk very in-depth off line then this person all of a sudden never comes back and never writes me. Call it what you want, but in my eyes I see a person who really does not want to hear the truth or is afraid of the evidence if they can get very specif in depth evidence.

Then as far as you go, Again I give very specif reasons why I said and say you lie, yet you never prove why I am wrong and you really are telling the truth which leads me to believe I am in fact correct.

An example of me correcting people who call me liars is this, Just like I pointed out on my blog I stated if people call me a liar I call them on it, Well under the same Topic on MC, A LDS poster who goes by Hanksaint accused me of lying, it was in fact Him who lied about me.

So I pointed out He lied about me and exactly how he did it and that he is losing credibility for lying about me, now he needs to come back and either apologize for lying about me and explain why he did it or he cannot be taken seriously ever again.

It been weeks now and two more topics have gone by and he has never been back. He know he was lying and will not apologize, and hank saint is a pretty regular poster going back years, so I know other LDS have lied and been busted for it, then they disappear for weeks or months then comeback after they think everyone will forget.

Sadly for Hank I am waiting for him to come back, even a year later and I will call him to account for lying about me like, Yet You never point out exactly why and how I am wrong about you if I say you lie.

I have never meet anyone that if called a liar they simply let themselves be accused like that for no reason, never, but you do, so that tells me I am right. So I can see why you dont want to talk to me, it's because you cannot stand up to the truth with facts or logic, you you must resort to lying or avoidance. Rick b

Interested said...


rick b said...

Interested said sdhfuihae

Would your care to share what this means. Thanks, Also since you posted that it shows your at least alive. Rick b

Nicole said...

Yes, yes, good to hear from you Interested. Hope all is well. Your post has me it some sort of code or cipher?


Interested said...

Don't know what that is or how it got there!

Thanks to you both. I am back as I have been out of pocket for a while, but am working on a new post should be up tomorrow.