Monday, September 15, 2008

Everywhere I go!

This morning I made a visit to a doctor's office. (This is a new doctor since I have only recently moved here.)

The first thing I noticed was the absence of any magazines. One must always wait in a doctor's office....however, nothing but a television going on some religious station. I asked the receptionist if there was reading material available somewhere.

"Oh sure," she said and handed me a copy of the Bible. "We give them to all our patients," she proudly spouted. "It's free," she said, "take it home with you."

Okay what did I do? Nothing. But I certainly thought about it.

52 comments:

BEAST FCD said...

http://atheisthaven.blogspot.com/2008/09/of-christians-contraception-and.html

BEAST FCD said...

Well. You can do a couple of things with the bible.

1. Use it to smack to doctor's head.

2. Flip it to the one on Numbers chapter 31. The one where God authorizes the sacrifice of 32,000 virgins, 32 of which were sacrificed unto the lord.

3. Flush it down the nearest toilet.

4. Call the police and complain that the good doc has just shown you pornographic material. If asked for evidence, simply turn to the Old testament. Enough to indict the doc.

Beast

Interested said...

Number 4...that's my favorite! These guys need to see what's really in that ole' book.

rick b said...

Why is it we must put up with Athiests crying about our believe in God, but you guys shove this crap down our throats that God is not real and we disrespect you guys for what you believe.

I mean, if We preach God or mention the Bible, you guys cry like little girls, But yet we must put up with you guys crying Boo Hoo Rick mentioned the Bible, send him to jail, But if I say, O-no a athiest cry baby says God is false, then I must shut up and listen to you teach in schools God is false and I get in trouble for saying anything to you about it. Boo Hoo. Big cry babies. Rick b

rick b said...

O sorry, Did I say God is Real and your Wrong and will end up in torment for all of eterinty? Sorry, I forgot you can tell me I am wrong but I cannot tell you your wrong, Sorry I hate these double standerds you guys use and have, I am sorry that I cannot use your logic to say what I believe, and I can only listen to what you believe. Sorry, Did not mean to speak truth on your Blog. Rick b

BEAST FCD said...

Lol Rick. I was speaking half in jest....although options 1 & 2 seems reasonable enough.

1. A doctor who preaches in his clinic instead of dispensing medicine deserves a good whack on the head.

2. The one of the virgins is real. Flip the bible. Its there.

3. I don't recommend option 3, not because it is blasphemy; you don't want to make the poor repairman fish out that filthy little bible from the waste pipes, do you (Note: I do think the bible is more filthy than the shit in the shithole.....)

4.Ok, that one in option 4 applies to countries which actually ban or restrict porn.

Beast

rick b said...

Beast, you might have been speaking in Jest, but I was not. Even when I said I was sorry, that was sarcasm. What it boils down to is a double standerd. You guys tell me and others Shut your mouths, Do not Speak about God period, Do not mention God in Schools or anywhere, yet I must listen to you guys in schools tell me or my kids God does not Exist and we must remain Silent.

I'm not offended, but yet it boils down to, you guys can offend Believers by saying God is not Real, yet we cannot offend you by saying, No, God is real. Even though you deny God or simply do not Believe, the one thing I want Athiest to open their eyes to and Admit is, You have a very real Double standerd. Rick b

Anonymous said...

I have found myself asking the question of why certain people are so hostile towards a God they do not consider to be real.

If God is not real, then why do you hate Him so much? Is this not foolishness?

If this book I so love so much is just a bunch of words, then why is it so vile to you?
myspace.com/cannotbeshaken

Anonymous said...

Beast- you are in error of scripture. The virgins are a tribute- NOT a sacrifice. There is a difference.

Show me one place, other than Jesus being crucified for the sin of the world, where God condones human sacrifice.


Num 31:31

So Moses and Eleazar the priest did as the Lord commanded Moses.
Num 31:32

The plunder remaining from the spoils that the soldiers took was 675,000 sheep,
Num 31:33

72,000 cattle,
Num 31:34

61,000 donkeys
Num 31:35

and 32,000 women who had never slept with a man.
Num 31:36

The half share of those who fought in the battle was:



337,500 sheep,
Num 31:37

of which the tribute for the Lord was 675;
Num 31:38

36,000 cattle, of which the tribute for the Lord was 72;
Num 31:39

30,500 donkeys, of which the tribute for the Lord was 61;
Num 31:40

16,000 people, of which the tribute for the Lord was 32.


Num 31:41

Moses gave the tribute to Eleazar the priest as the Lord's part, as the Lord commanded Moses.
Num 31:42

The half belonging to the Israelites, which Moses set apart from that of the fighting men—
Num 31:43

the community's half—was 337,500 sheep,
Num 31:44

36,000 cattle,
Num 31:45

30,500 donkeys
Num 31:46

and 16,000 people.
Num 31:47

From the Israelites' half, Moses selected one out of every fifty persons and animals, as the Lord commanded him, and gave them to the Levites, who were responsible for the care of the Lord's tabernacle.
Num 31:48

Then the officers who were over the units of the army—the commanders of thousands and commanders of hundreds—went to Moses

Been Jammin

BEAST FCD said...

Lol. This is getting interesting.

First things first, Rick. I don't think I am hostile towards your God, or your religion, or even you. There is, after all, a right place and the right time for everything.

Take interested01's case. She needs to go to the doctor. The doctor is a professional medical dispenser, not a priest. Why then is he dispensing religious advice? If she really needed it, she could jolly well be in church, not a doctor's clinic! Get the general idea!

I too was offended when I visited a govt hospital to remove my stitches, when the nurse started to proselytize to me. Unfortunately, I was forced to listen to his drivel cos he was removing the stitch for me (knee surgery). Is it fair?

You can say God is real, or the Spaghetti Monster is real, but frankly, I don't give a shit. Keep it within your confines, away from my ears, my penis, and why would I even bother about you? Have you ever seen me bother about Flat Earthers (People who believe the earth is flat)? No. Why? Cos they don't force their erroneous beliefs into the school system, unlike, say, Creationists and fundies?

Beast

BEAST FCD said...

Anonymous:

Tribute, sacrifice? Read carefully:

The plunder remaining from the spoils that the soldiers took was 675,000 sheep,
Num 31:33

Beast

rick b said...

Beast said No. Why? Cos they don't force their erroneous beliefs into the school system, unlike, say, Creationists and fundies?

Beast


The question is, Why can we teach YOUR beliefe in School that Gos is not Real and Does not exist, but we cannot teach Creation as well. They will only allow one side, your side. It's like when you said you went to the Doctor and heard him preach to you.

Using your words You can say God is real, or the Spaghetti Monster is real, but frankly, I don't give a shit. Keep it within your confines, away from my ears, my penis, and why would I even bother about you?

Why dont we either teach both sides in school or no sides in School. You can cry and whine about A doctor preaching to you, but we must do the same Listen to you preach to us in Schools. Maybe You Beast are not teaching in Schools, but people like you, who hold your believe are, and they fight tooth and nail to keep it one sided, to the point they fight it out in courts. That was my Point, it is a double standerd. And your either to blind to see it, or you see it and refuse to admit it, and that makes you a liar. Either way it is their. Rick b

Interested said...

Okay her I come!
First, there is a huge difference in teaching someting with evidence, repeatable, proveable evidence and teaching a belief. Creationism has No evidence behind it. Science should be taught in our schools not beliefs.

Second, none of us say we hate god. We don't believe he exist. What we do hate is the insistence of your religious flock pushing it on us. I went to the doctor for a dose of medicine, not belief.

Finally, you all of you collectively, have the right to your belief. I don't know very many atheist who agressively try to convert others. I have never been to a doctor's office, beauty shop, nail salon or anyplace where I was offered a copy of Origin of the Species or god is not great or The god delusion. That is the difference.

Interested said...

Rick said: You guys tell me and others Shut your mouths, Do not Speak about God period, Do not mention God in Schools or anywhere, yet I must listen to you guys in schools tell me or my kids God does not Exist and we must remain Silent.

You have every right to speak of your god, your beliefs in the proper forum. A public school is not the proper forum. As for the doctor's office, he is in private practice and if he choose to do so then I have the right to choose a different doctor. Kids in public school do not have the right to choose a different school.

I don't hate god, I don't believe he/she exist. I do hate religion and what it does to our society, expecially our children.

I have lived a long time in places where religion is forced down the throats of our children before they are able to walk. Baptisim, christening, having a testimony all of those things pre dispose a child to become closed and fear questioning what they have been taught. It is a form of child abuse to close his/her mind against questioning. That is what I hate.

rick b said...

Intersted, theiur is more Evidence that Jesus exited than their is for eveloutin. You simply choose to deny it and say, I see no evidence or the evidence given is not good enough. Then, Since you want nothing to do with God, Dont complain when you die and find out you were wrong and end up in hell forever.

What makes Hell, Hell, is the Fact that God is not their, You guys finally get what you want, etrinty apart from God. Then, you sadly will as the Bible tells us, Bow the knee and confess with your mouth Jesus is Lord before you get your Flaming swirly. Rick b

Interested said...

Rick I so wish someone would provide that evidence of which you speak. I have never seen the slightest, smallest amount of evidence. The stories written are just that...stories much as the writings of the early Greeks. Great stories but all just stories.

If we are to have a serious debate then we must find a point at which we agree on something, yet I cannot see that as a possibility because you offer the bible as proof and I don't accept the bible as truth. I offer science and scholarship as proof and you do not accept it as truth. We are at impass. To continue to remind me of your belief that I will burn in hell is terribly counterproductive and provides no fuel for serious discussion.

rick b said...

Interested said...

Rick I so wish someone would provide that evidence of which you speak. I have never seen the slightest, smallest amount of evidence. The stories written are just that...stories much as the writings of the early Greeks. Great stories but all just stories.


To which I say

Intersted, I so wish someone would provide that evidence of which you speak. I have never seen the slightest, smallest amount of evidence. The stories written are just that...stories much as the writings of the early Greeks. Great stories but all just stories.


Where is this Evidence you use to prove Eveloution?. Rick b

Shelli said...

Hello Interested. I am new here.
The point is, as a scientist, I am astonished that you believe evolution is scientific. It has many holes, and it is a belief system. You have to have a lot of faith to actually believe anything could survive without all of the "adaptations" that allow living things to breathe, to reproduce cells, etc. Take the most basic cell structure. If it did not have even one small part, it would not be able to do what it does. If you took the time to study even the basis of the scientific method, you would know that it can only be considered true if it is reproducible on a consistent, continual basis. Any scientist should be able to reproduce the same result every time. Think about the repercussions of some things you believe to be true. I suggest you do some research. The evidence is there if you open your eyes and look.

BEAST FCD said...

Ok, here comes the beast.

Shelli:

If you are a scientist, you would realize that Behe's irreducible complex theory (I assume you are talking about that since you are talking about the cellular structure) was completely debunked in the courtroom......

Rick

No atheist in his or her right mind will venture to teach atheism in schools. The reason is simple: Given the proper secular education and without undue influence from the church, most folks will see the obvious, that God is a delusion and nothing else.

Teaching Evolution is nothing in common with teaching Creationism. Evolution is a scientific theory and a fact, supported by fossils and empirical evidence. Creationism has none of these things: it involves looking and convoluting evidence to suit the scriptures. That is how religion, and not how science works.

Regarding the existence of Jebus, the curious thing is, archeology seems to turn up 0 evidence towards his existence. We know the romans keep censuses; but the character of the mythical Jebus doesn't show up. The works of Josephus mentioned no less than 20 messiah like creepy characters with the name Jebus.

Does Jebus exist? I don't know. Even by the odd chance he did, he was dead, and he did nothing to advance the course of civilization (Fuck he couldn't even make a proper chair for a carpenter).

Beast

Interested said...

Thanks Beast...you do have a way with words.

Anonymous said...

Evolution vs. Creation: Origins
In the Evolution vs. Creation conflict, Evolutionists do quite well in terms of theoretical science, but fail to find empirical evidence. Evolutionists theorize that the universe, with all that it contains (space, time, matter and energy), exploded from nothing. This is contrary to the First Law of Thermodynamics. Where did space, time, matter and energy come from in the first place? Thus, for Evolutionists, the ultimate question of Origins remains unsolved. To complicate the Evolutionary position, this original explosion of everything from nothing is unable to explain all of the complexity and fine-tuning in the universe, including cosmic "voids" and "clumps", retrograde motion of the galaxies, etc. Despite numerous problems, this explosion from nothing has been dubbed the "Big Bang" and is the accepted theory among the majority of Evolutionists. Evolution is a very unique "science." Typically, scientists observe evidentiary data and then formulate their conclusions. Evolutionists have formulated their conclusion, and now look for the missing data.

Evolution vs. Creation: Complexity
The Evolution vs. Creation debate further seeks to solve the riddle of complexity. Creationists believe the universe was designed to be complex by an Intelligent Designer. Evolutionists, in their effort to exclude a designer, contend that complexity has developed from simplicity over time. Evolutionists view time as their solution. However, hard science tells us that time is the enemy of complexity. This fact has been so well documented that it has obtained the stature of a physical law, the "Second Law of Thermodynamics."

Evolution vs. Creation: The Resolution
Evolution vs. Creation -- Until Evolutionists find the evidence they've sought since the beginning of the modern Evolutionary movement about 150 years ago, there is actually no debate at all. Creation is the default. Evolutionists insist that complexity developed from simplicity despite the contradiction to known physical laws. Moreover, Evolutionists maintain that this simplicity just sprang into existence without any cause at all. Let's collect the evidence, and then we can start a debate.

rick b said...

Here is a couple of problems I see. 1. How do you take a bunch of non-life and poisions gas, add a spark and come up with life? That is how many view the big bang, Non-life brings forth life, how can a scitenst really do that in a lab? Yet many believe it and teach it.

2. You guys feel the earth is millions or even billions of years old, Frankly I do not care how old the earth is, But my point is this, How can you honestly come up with an age?

You find a fossil or dig up a bone, it does not come with an age added on to it. So you must build a machine, put in a number (Age) then use that as your basis for dating all the rest of the things you dig up, How is that Science or (Proof).
Rick b

Interested said...

Anon, you seem to have some basic knowledge but I think you need to look at more recent findings and writings.

Rick, you do make life interesting...I will give you that.

rick b said...

Anon, you seem to have some basic knowledge but I think you need to look at more recent findings and writings.

Rick, you do make life interesting...I will give you that.


So Intersted, you have no evidence to dispute Anon? What about me, I am no scientist, but I can pose other question like mine that I feel will never be able to be answered, and cannot be proven by science, and as a matter of fact, not only can I pose questions, but I can back them up with mordern science that you and beast will agree are solid evidence that takes place today.

so say what you want, but you guys do keep it one sided and ask for evidence, but deny what we show, then cannot answer some questions because they cannot be supported by science, but still you use blind faith and believe it despite evidence. rick b

BEAST FCD said...

Rick:

There are a number of ways to determine age: Carbon Dating is one. Counting tree rings is another.

Also, fossils from any of the ancient era, say, Jurassic era, will only be found in a certain strata of soil, hence indicating their approximate age. All these evidences will be taken into account before the age is calculated. That, Rick, is called collaboration of data, and collection of empirical evidence.

So what does Creationism have to compare to Science? Oh, ok, I see, THE BIBLE SAYS SO!

(Rolls Eyes, Shrieks with terror)

Beast

BEAST FCD said...

Note:

The 2nd law of thermodynamics applies only to a closed system. Earth itself is not a closed system.

Beast

BEAST FCD said...

As far as creating life from scratch is concerned, read this:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20249628/

rick b said...

I find it funny, turns out beast is really a chicken, Better yet a pussy.

You claim God is not real, but yet you cannot bring yourself to even spell out the name Jesus, you must misspell the name of a person on purpose even though claim he his not real.

counting rings, yes I can count 6 million in a tree, ok, if you say so. what about the evidence they have shown of tree fossils standing up going through all these suppodly different ages of time.

Then as far as carbon dating goes, it goes back to what I said before, the carbon does not come up with an age added on it, we decide the age in advance, then build our science around it to make all other carbon fit it. but yet that logic is to much for you to handle so you simply ignore it.

you want to believe Carbon has an age added on it, it's like if we found an alien, we do not know it's age, so we must give it one, then base all other finding of aliens upon the very first one we found.

we might find features on it that come close to the first one we found. like color of skin, or length of hair, etc, so we use the first one, plus the age WE gave it to decide how old all the rest our.

no matter how much you like it or not, you know I am correct, yet will never ad,it it, you will fight tooth and nail to your grave that I am wrong.

Show me one case of AGE where anything is found with a sticker on it saying I am X amount of years old. It will never happen. we decide the age then base everything around that. show me a tree that has so many rings we can say look, 50 million rings. they could not count that high in their human life, your so blind and scared of a God you claim does not exist, my friends at church laugh at you.

Yes I tell my friends about people like you and how scared you are of a God you deny, yet you cannot even spell His name correctly, then you will come on and refuse to say or spell His name, and only make excuses as to why you really have nothing to prove, only showing all the more I am correct. you really should change your photo to a chicken, a chicken is simple another form of a beast, but your not a scary beast, I laugh at you. HA HA, Rick b

Interested said...

Rick I am very sorry for you. It is sad that the most ignorant among us are often the strongest believers. I grew up among many like you, some of my family is still. Rick it is sad that you waste your energy on such frivolity when there is so much to explore and learn.

BEAST FCD said...

Lolz!!!

I prefer to be the predecessor of the chicken: The Tyrannosaurus Rex! (Yes, their genes are, erm, remarkably similar)

With regards to the carbon dating thing, I have written and article about it, including, yes, including, the formula!!! (I can imagine Rick shrieking now with wide eyed fear!)

Here's the link to my post:

http://atheisthaven.blogspot.com/2007/06/why-carbon-dating-works.html

BEAST FCD said...

Jesus, Jebus, Gay-fag-cum-God, long haired messiah.......who the fuck gives a shit?

What did your Jebus do anyway, besides getting his ass nailed on the cross?

I can name more than a dozen heroes in ancient times whose deeds far outstrips this Jebus character.

Beast

(P.S: Check out my latest post on euthanasia. I blasted the pope beyond recognition)

BEAST FCD said...

"I find it funny, turns out beast is really a chicken, Better yet a pussy."

Rick, I feel sorry for you. The word "pussy" is a derogatory lingo that translates to a female sex organ. While it can be used to mean a cat, calling someone a "pussy", or using the colloquial term "pussy" is an insult to women generally.

I am sure, Rick, that you have a wife and a mom. Please do not insult them.

Just a thought.

Beast

Anonymous said...

Science- stating FACT drawn from OBSERVATION.

Have you observed life starting from amino acids and proteins? NO. THerefore, it is a belief system. NOT science.

And don't get me started with the Humanist agenda pushed in the public school system.
-Cannot be shaken

BEAST FCD said...

LOL (The biggest LOL EVER!)

All life is made up of proteins (Which is amino acids). This is an established fact. Ask any biologist!

And what is wrong with a humanist agenda, may I ask? Do you not want your rights to be protected?

Beast

Interested said...

Thanks, Beast, for the link to the MSNBC article. I had heard about this research but not done any digging.

Won't it be interesting to see how the religious gurus deal with this news?

BEAST FCD said...

As usual, interested. They will kick up a huge ruckus over......nothing.

Man has been playing God for at least 5000 yrs. If we weren't cross pollinating our apple trees and crops, we were playing around with cattle, mixing dog and cat breeds, and inventing medicines to spare some of us from an early trip to the graveyard.

Christians will cry foul when scientists start inventing new stuff, but ask them where they go to when they are ill. It most likely is not the church.

Beast

Anonymous said...

I do not deny life is composed of proteins- I only argue there has not been the observation of life spontaniously (splg?)occouring. Therefore, the theory of Evolution is a belief- NOT fact.

Granted, there has not been the observation of life being spontaniously created either, therefore the theory of Intelligent Design is ultimately a belief also.

I do want my rights protected; however, stating Humanism as the saviour of my rights is quite the stretch.

-CBS (Cannot be Shaken)

BEAST FCD said...

CBS (Reminds me of a certain TV station......Tsk tsk):

1. First of all, it is spelled "spontaneous".

2. It is unlikely that any single-celled bacterium that does spontaneously appear now will be able to survive, because more complex bacterium will simply consume it as food. Damn the food chain!

3. Humanism is about putting the rights of humans first. Like it or not, it is the cornerstone of the US Constitution and the UN Bill of Rights. Don't like humanism? Try living on Mars.

Beast

Anonymous said...

Beast-

as far as your last comment, there are points to which I believe we- as in Christians- are commanded to turn to modern medicine in order to heal the human body. This does not discount prayer, nor does it mean I do not have faith in God to heal me.

Also, there are problems when you cross pollinate. Round up ready plants, for example, have immediate harm and potential long term damage to our enviroment and society as a whole http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Monsanto_and_the_Roundup_Ready_Controversy

you will need to scroll to the bottom for the unknown/ unintended facts.
-CBS

BEAST FCD said...

If evolution is not a fact, perhaps you might forget about biology and medicine.

If evolution does not occur, we wouldn't be able to create vaccines, because DNA wouldn't be able to change. No change, no manipulation.

Mutations wouldn't occur.

All life on Earth will cease, because Earth does go through cycles of hot and cold.

Beast

Anonymous said...

Beast-

My point is not if new life will survive; rather, it has not been observed. New species are discovered often- this does not prove evolution- only we have not searched everyway.

Because science is defined as a conclusion based upon the observable evidence, you cannot prove something unless you can observe it.

Therefore, because it has not been observed, evolution cannot be proven.

Therefore, it is only a theory.

-CBS (no intended relation to any broadcasting network)

BEAST FCD said...

Lol again.

You will turn to science when you are in deep shit. When everything is fine and dainty, you turn to your god.

This is the attitude I get from Christians: When Science suits them, they say God inspires Scientists. When scientists talk about biology and evolution, they become agents of the Devil. Do I smell a whiff of hypocrisy here???

Of course I know the problems of cross-species breeding or pollination. Mules, bred between horses and donkeys, can't breed. Same goes with ligers (Male lion and female tiger) and tigons (Male tiger and female lion). Generally, however, the closer the species, the less problems with cross breeding. That is why we have so many breeds of domesticated dogs and cats. All of them are a result of man playing god.

For good or for bad, we humans have, since the dawn of mankind, ceased the initiative to be masters of our domain. You can bloody hell bitch about it, and if you really hate it so much, simply pack your bags and head to the mountains. Abandon science & technology and those hedonistic IPODS, and you might just find your way to salvation.

Beast

BEAST FCD said...

Let me give you a brilliant example:

A pathologist is at the crime scene. He sees a body, some blood, and a couple of bullet shells. Does he or she need to be physically there at the time of the crime scene to actually give a detailed description of what happened? No.

Traces, evidences, bits and pieces here and there, you don't have to be physically there (which is impossible) to hypothesize evolution anyway.

Beast

Anonymous said...

Beast-

Now your just putting words together. the study of the human body does not prove nor disprove evolution.

Vaccines do not affect our DNA. if I am wrong, show me an article. prove it.

What I will gladly admit is all gene pools go through periods of change. Mendelian genetics occurs and works (and, btw, suggests earth IS a closed system because we do not have DNA from Mars adding to the gene pool of humans).

And now, you are embarking on a third strain- Global warming. by your own statement (CC'd below), there is no such thing as global warming.
Granted, we should still take care of our enviroment until Jesus returns, but there is yet another matter.

All life on Earth will cease, because Earth does go through cycles of hot and cold.

-CBS

Anonymous said...

Beast-

Interesting point. Tell me, who pulled the trigger? what kind of gun was used?

How about this one:

a man walks down a path and sees a large object. Upon closer investigation, he finds this object to have clear parts (windows) and opaque parts(siding). He finds something which he can turn- it is a door and he is at a house.

Tell me, did this house appear or was it created?

By looking at the evidence available, you can come to several conclusions. the only way you can prove one of them is by being there.

-CBS

BEAST FCD said...

LOL CBS

Earth is not and cannot be a closed system. A closed system cannot allow light rays to penetrate our atmosphere. If Earth is a closed system, life cannot exist, for without sunlight, plants cannot photosynthesize.

When I was talking about vaccines, I was not talking about changing the humane genome. I was talking about the weakening of viruses so that our bodies can produce antibodies who can then fight off both the vaccine and the real virus.

Did I say there is no global warming? hmm....... I don't think so. Quote me if I said it.

Beast

BEAST FCD said...

Who pulled the trigger? I guess the pathologist can find clues here and there: The murderer's footprints, fingerprints, hair, DNA, etc.

A house, being geometrically rigid in structure, does not have DNA strains, and its design strongly hints to its being created.

Human beings and living things are different. They are there not by creation, but mutation and natural selection.

Your story reminds me of my head pastor who attempted to use lego bricks to discount evolution. Bad example.

Beast

BEAST FCD said...

When I say Earth goes through cycles of Hot and Cold, i am validating global warming, not against it.

10,000 years ago, Earth had its last ice age. Our planet is now undergoing the warming cycle. This is what we know acknowledge as global warming.

Beast

rick b said...

Beast said I prefer to be the predecessor of the chicken: The Tyrannosaurus Rex! (Yes, their genes are, erm, remarkably similar)

I agree, But do you know why? So we can eat them. Our genes are not similar to lets say, Iron, but they are of the animles so we can eat them as food. Duh.

Beast said What did your Jebus do anyway, besides getting his ass nailed on the cross?

I agree with you Jebus is not real, I do not believe in Jebus and never will. I believe in Jesus and He is real and He rose from the grave to save us from Hell.

Beast said (P.S: Check out my latest post on euthanasia. I blasted the pope beyond recognition) I say, Good for you, I do not follow the Pope and I do not believe for one minute the Pope knows Jesus and has never read the Bible.

As a matter of Fact, I believe you and the Pope will meet up after death if you both go on the way your going.

Beast said 3. Humanism is about putting the rights of humans first. Like it or not, it is the cornerstone of the US Constitution and the UN Bill of Rights. Don't like humanism? Try living on Mars.

I could be wrong here, but it seems to me humanism is failing, What about abortion? Where are the rights of the unborn baby?

Now if you claim the Baby is not human yet and has no rights, then lets use this real life example. A man kills another man, women or even child, he gets off in a matter of a few years, Yet a man kills a Bald Eagle, he can get life in Jail. Where are the human rights now?

Granted I want the killer to go to jail, But a guy killing a human should get more jail time than for killing a bird.

Beast said Mutations wouldn't occur.

I'm so glad you brought this up, because This was my next thought.

You guys believe in evolution yet you were not alive, no one was alive to see it happen, so you cannot prove it, so you also have a beliefe system.

now how can you prove that life was a result of a serious of Mutations? You cannot. Now this is one thing that intersted says, Rick Provide evidence, yet she cannot, she says I go by faith with out facts, yet she has faith with out facts.

Now you guys claim these Mutations occured. Can you reproduce this in a lab, No you cannot, Now the funny thing about these Mutations is this, A germ gets a scratch, over time that scratch turns into an Eye ball or Lung or something to "better" it's self. Yet you take a dog, cut it's tail off.

If the dog has puppies, they are born with full tails, No matter how often you do this, all the dogs born to them will have tails, or take male men, if they get circumcised their kids will not be born that way.

So how come a mutation can pass on and slowly improve a creature, but things like dogs tails or circumcised kids do not pass on.

How come if I get a scratch this does not pass on and mutate but on the germ it does, yet on the germ you never saw it and cannot prove it. Now how come a fish back then jumps out of water and slowly turns into an air breathing creature, but we never saw it happen,

but if a whale beaches it's self it dies, or if a fish jumps out of it's bowl, or even into a boat or on land, it will die, not mutate.

how is it you guys have no evidence for this, but you believe it, and you cannot reproduce it in a lab as intersted claims can be done, yet you claim this is fact.

funny how intersted is not coming forth with all the evidence she claims exists.

Beast said Let me give you a brilliant example:

A pathologist is at the crime scene. He sees a body, some blood, and a couple of bullet shells. Does he or she need to be physically there at the time of the crime scene to actually give a detailed description of what happened? No.

Traces, evidences, bits and pieces here and there, you don't have to be physically there (which is impossible) to hypothesize evolution anyway.


Now my Turn,
The people like you who teach evolution come across a fire pit, all around the fire pit are skulls of ape's, the Evolution say, Wow Apes made a fire, ate diner and lived around here, this proves evolution.

The creationists find the same setting, they say, Wow, Humans had apes for diner. Rick b

BEAST FCD said...

LOL.

I think I am going to stop at here. I believe I have just about rebut every claim put forward in this post. The last post of Rick is just mere rhetoric.

Interested, shall we move on?

Beast

Interested said...

"now how can you prove that life was a result of a serious of Mutations? You cannot. Now this is one thing that intersted says, Rick Provide evidence, yet she cannot, she says I go by faith with out facts, yet she has faith with out facts."

Sorry Rick. Wrong again. Faith and belief have no part in my denouncement of your god. I say provide proof and I will believe but I must see proof to accept anything as fact.

When you speak of evolution I defer to other experts. The empirical evidence is pretty convincing for me.

And once again I reiterate, my disbelief in your god does not require that I provide and alternative.

I do not believe that some supernatural being with supernatural powers CREATED the earth because I see no empirical evidence. I do not have to tell you how we came about in order to disbelieve your version.

Suppose I tell you that I stepped off my roof yesterday and floated to the ground unharmed. Can you believe that without proof? What kind of proof do you need? Would you believe it if someone wrote a book and claimed it inspired, stating that HE or SHE had seem me YOU would have to see it to believe it yet you believe in a god you have never seen. Sorry, I need better evidence.

Interested said...

Yes let's move on.